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It is seriously starting to bug me when people post stupid shit about guys dating their daughters.

It tends to trend along the lines of "I own a gun, boys, and I know how to use it". Even when it doesn't it's wrapped in this creepy dad-protects-daughter's-sexuality wrapper.

A picture of a rainbow that said, "I like you", from a little boy to a little girl just garnered responses of, "Locked and loaded, just show me the way!" and, "Right behind you with my own shotgun!" The girl and boy in question are both 7.

Somehow, far fewer crappy things tend to get posted about girls dating people's sons. Because I guess a son's virtue does not need protecting; as opposed to a daughter's...which is in constant jeopardy. And it's not like she has any future agency in the matter. Nooo...

It's patriarchal, benevolently sexist, backward bullshit. I don't understand why people seem to think it's "cute".

Date: 2014-01-23 04:00 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] newlifeinstpaul.livejournal.com
No boys have ever been good enough for my Babies, to say nothing of LP's Loser WannaBe Thug Phase. Matter of fact, let's actually say nothing of it. Yes. Indeed. Where was I?

Anyway, the last thing I'd wanna to do is get stupid-confrontational You-Can't-See-Him about one of 'em. Those kids owe their existence to Spiting the Parents (mine) and the odds I've passed on my Spite Genes? Fairly good.

Date: 2014-01-23 04:10 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pen-grunt.livejournal.com
There's a total difference between wanting the best for your daughters (or kids, in general) and planning to follow their future dates around with shotguns when they're still in diapers. :)

Anyway, the last thing I'd wanna to do is get stupid-confrontational You-Can't-See-Him about one of 'em.

I dated a guy I didn't even LIKE for WAY too long because my parents hated him. I didn't even want to spite them directly, I just wanted to prove that I knew what I was doing with my life and they didn't. I'd say your non-confrontation policy is very smart.

Date: 2014-01-23 04:22 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] newlifeinstpaul.livejournal.com
Worse yet, what if those ol' bastards are RIGHT but have talked so much yap about the situation their kids feel backed into a corner?

I've been there too. I'd rather Da Babies feel safe under a 'come home, no harm, no foul' policy than couch-surfing or sleeping in their car to avoid my 'Told Ya So.'

Date: 2014-01-23 04:14 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gwangi.livejournal.com
I hope that someday my daughter grows up to have a totally normal and great sex life, and I also hope that she never ever tells me anything about it.

Date: 2014-01-23 04:20 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pen-grunt.livejournal.com
I also hope that she never ever tells me anything about it.

I think this is an entirely reasonable desire.

Date: 2014-01-23 04:27 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eyelid.livejournal.com
I want to know that my kids are getting some! Especially Nae!

My kids are going to be smoking hot and get so much tail it's ridiculous.

Date: 2014-01-23 04:32 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pen-grunt.livejournal.com
Reading all the notes between my grandma and my uncle-in-law regarding my aunt's sex life has sorta put me off wanting to know too many specifics about futurekid's sex life.

I'd like to think that they're getting some, but I don't think I'll be the parent who talks about all the details.

Date: 2014-01-23 12:11 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bertine.livejournal.com
I am with you. I want to know they are getting some and are having a healthy sex life BUT I don't want to know the details.

Date: 2014-01-23 12:10 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] bertine.livejournal.com
I think the point is that you would feel the same if we had a son. You just don't want to know.

Date: 2014-01-24 09:21 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pen-grunt.livejournal.com
I love this about you guys as parents. Not that you don't want to know, but that you have the same attitude towards H as you would a son. :)

Date: 2014-01-23 04:33 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eyelid.livejournal.com
yeah, that is gross and stupid. Especially when you're talking about little kids. A seven-year-old is a first/second grader. What on earth is funny about pulling a shotgun on a first/second grader? NOTHING.

Even if you're talking about older kids, it's just creepy. I will stop my kid from having sex by physical violence. uh... awesome?

Date: 2014-01-23 04:59 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pen-grunt.livejournal.com
Nothing like sexualizing children! I mean, seven is kinda old. Why not start with babies: http://myfatherdaughterstore.bigcartel.com/product/onesie-5-things-you-should-know-about-my-dad

GROSS.

Date: 2014-01-23 05:16 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] eyelid.livejournal.com
to be fair, if someone sexually involved themselves with my infant I would probably kill them and put them in the backyard. Of course, I doubt a onesie would deter a pedophile.

Date: 2014-01-23 06:51 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pen-grunt.livejournal.com
Fair point, but I'm pretty sure that the people buying these kinds of things are not thinking of pedophiles.

Date: 2014-01-23 05:53 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tediousandbrief.livejournal.com
Yeah...I've seen some of those and they're just...creepy.

I can understand wanting your kids to have good experience, but basically threatening future love interests with a gun...not cool.

Though sometimes I wonder if I'd be no better if I had kids, but at least less creepy and more liberal. Like, I'd rather their date not own or have access to a fire arm and that they'd consider Obama to have been a fairly moderate to center-right President but not nearly liberal enough. ;)

Date: 2014-01-23 06:29 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pen-grunt.livejournal.com
See, I think there's a reasonable and large difference between wanting your kid to date a certain type of person, ideologically, and giving off the vibe that you are the protector of your kid's virtue. These postings definitely give off the "no one should date my daughter ever and I am her dad and shall protect her virginity...with guns!" vibe.

Of course, your kid will probably f*ck a republican as a form of rebellion at some point. To be fair, it's a tremendously disappointing experience that every girl should probably have at some point. ;)

Date: 2014-01-23 06:34 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tediousandbrief.livejournal.com
Of course, your kid will probably f*ck a republican as a form of rebellion at some point. To be fair, it's a tremendously disappointing experience that every girl should probably have at some point. ;)

haha!

Date: 2014-01-23 08:48 pm (UTC)
From: [identity profile] patrickwonders.livejournal.com
It amazes me when I hear this "daughter defending" from otherwise reasonable and intelligent people. One of my co-workers in my last job started training his daughter in self-defense when she was 4-ish so that when boys start showing interest in her, she can flatten them.

I'm not saying self-defense skills are bad, but his son is getting no such training.
Edited Date: 2014-01-23 08:49 pm (UTC)

Date: 2014-01-24 04:31 am (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pen-grunt.livejournal.com
I understand parental protectiveness and sometimes overly-much protectiveness. It's the blatant gender bias that bugs me. The defend-the-daughter stuff tends to be coupled with other creepy/stupid/patriarchal/bullshit things...like chastity rings and daddy-daughter purity dances.

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